Comments on: speaking of missing the point . . . http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/ Powered by Cheezhead Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:19:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Nancy http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-30186 Nancy Mon, 05 May 2008 20:16:22 +0000 http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-30186 I have gone to agencies in the past, while looking for a job. Most of the time, the agent will say "oh that job is just an advertisement and doesn't really exist." Also I am so nervous that I can't think straight when taking my test or I will use the computer shortcuts to accomplish a task, but the computer will say "wrong response" when it is the right response when used as a short cut in word or excel. So my test scores are low in all testing because they all use the same computer program. So I just post my resume on the Internet and get more interviews that I ever did with an agency. I was also told my a friend who said there is a quote that the agencies have to accomplish and I have seen that with snide, high and mighty attitude of the agents. Not all agencies are there to help the person get a job but are there to make money. The client wants someone for less money and the agencies help them to achieve that!!! I have gone to agencies in the past, while looking for a job. Most of the time, the agent will say “oh that job is just an advertisement and doesn’t really exist.”

Also I am so nervous that I can’t think straight when taking my test or I will use the computer shortcuts to accomplish a task, but the computer will say “wrong response” when it is the right response when used as a short cut in word or excel. So my test scores are low in all testing because they all use the same computer program. So I just post my resume on the Internet and get more interviews that I ever did with an agency.

I was also told my a friend who said there is a quote that the agencies have to accomplish and I have seen that with snide, high and mighty attitude of the agents.

Not all agencies are there to help the person get a job but are there to make money. The client wants someone for less money and the agencies help them to achieve that!!!

]]> By: Tiffany http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-697 Tiffany Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:23:04 +0000 http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-697 Oh whatever, I had THREE spam comments which had somehow bypassed the moderation queue. Oh whatever, I had THREE spam comments which had somehow bypassed the moderation queue.

]]> By: Barrett http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-696 Barrett Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:52:07 +0000 http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-696 Sorry to double post like this but I must make an amendment after re-reading those comments above me. It is quite likely that I have just never personally met anyone who spoke in such odd and vague manner. You still have spam on other posts! :-) Sorry to double post like this but I must make an amendment after re-reading those comments above me. It is quite likely that I have just never personally met anyone who spoke in such odd and vague manner. You still have spam on other posts! :-)

]]> By: Barrett http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-695 Barrett Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:49:12 +0000 http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-695 my GOD Tiffany you have spammers crawling like ants all over your site as if it were smothered in honey my GOD Tiffany you have spammers crawling like ants all over your site as if it were smothered in honey

]]> By: Jasen Morisaki http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-614 Jasen Morisaki Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:11:32 +0000 http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-614 I'm a little late to the party here, but I agree with Colin that many of the body shops have tainted the image of recruiters in a lot of cases. The good ones seem to have to carry the burden of the shady that went before them. However, I think this candidates line of communication is way out of line and completely lacks professionalism. To me it reeks of arrogance. He's a transient IT professional that bounces from contract to contract, never sticks around very long and probably doesn't make too many friends along the way. If I'm making a snap judgement, he was probably the super smart, but slightly off-kilter kid in school that got picked on. Now that he's a 'popular' person in his industry, he carries a chip on his shoulder. I work for a company that has both an internal software development team and a staffing function. For our internal staff, if they don't have the gleam, that incessant desire to learn about, talk about and blog about technology, they won't cut the mustard. I’m a little late to the party here, but I agree with Colin that many of the body shops have tainted the image of recruiters in a lot of cases. The good ones seem to have to carry the burden of the shady that went before them.

However, I think this candidates line of communication is way out of line and completely lacks professionalism. To me it reeks of arrogance. He’s a transient IT professional that bounces from contract to contract, never sticks around very long and probably doesn’t make too many friends along the way. If I’m making a snap judgement, he was probably the super smart, but slightly off-kilter kid in school that got picked on. Now that he’s a ‘popular’ person in his industry, he carries a chip on his shoulder.

I work for a company that has both an internal software development team and a staffing function. For our internal staff, if they don’t have the gleam, that incessant desire to learn about, talk about and blog about technology, they won’t cut the mustard.

]]> By: Stephanie http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-505 Stephanie Thu, 25 May 2006 20:34:36 +0000 http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-505 Hi Colin - Thanks for your response! I try not to be in the 'body shop' business. I work hard to combat that idea by being up front all candidates, and setting proper expectations with both talent and clients. I feel for the guy, but I think a more professional reaction would have been: "I will consider working with a placement agency, provided there is a job description and salary expectation in advance." Being vitriolic and defensive right out of the gate doesn't come across as flexible, engaging, and professional, three qualities that I look for in any candidate. Hi Colin - Thanks for your response!

I try not to be in the ‘body shop’ business. I work hard to combat that idea by being up front all candidates, and setting proper expectations with both talent and clients.

I feel for the guy, but I think a more professional reaction would have been: “I will consider working with a placement agency, provided there is a job description and salary expectation in advance.” Being vitriolic and defensive right out of the gate doesn’t come across as flexible, engaging, and professional, three qualities that I look for in any candidate.

]]> By: Colin Kingsbury http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-504 Colin Kingsbury Thu, 25 May 2006 19:05:02 +0000 http://www.magicpotofjobs.com/2006/05/25/speaking-of-missing-the-point/#comment-504 Yeah, but, I have some sympathy for the original poster's viewpoint. While you wouldn't completely waste a candidate's time, there are plenty of body shops out there that would, and do, jerk people around. The poster's response is a bit overwrought but not entirely unfair to the industry in general. Actually, I think one of the best things recruiter blogs can do is help candidates see what an agency is like from a distance so that they realize that folks like you are in fact worth working with. Yeah, but, I have some sympathy for the original poster’s viewpoint. While you wouldn’t completely waste a candidate’s time, there are plenty of body shops out there that would, and do, jerk people around. The poster’s response is a bit overwrought but not entirely unfair to the industry in general. Actually, I think one of the best things recruiter blogs can do is help candidates see what an agency is like from a distance so that they realize that folks like you are in fact worth working with.

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